IQmonitor tool

  • Komisch signalwanderung ? tatsächlich.

    :46:

    nein siehe da .

    Signal war so stark das ich es Position 37.5W mit IQ-Monitor gemessen habe und mein SF8008 Modulationsprobleme hatte.

    5 Mal editiert, zuletzt von ZAZA () aus folgendem Grund: komisch messe jetzt

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    1. Ich habe gar nichts geändert

    2. Ich bin auch keine Programmierer

    3. Fälschen tue ich auch nicht ,warum auch?

    hier alles wieder neu alles gelöscht sogar die IQ-ini

    dann neu gestartet. Fehlermeldung aber Programm macht keine probleme über den PC. Läuft und freezed nicht .Kann Bestätigen aber kann Karte nicht auflisten ,ist einfach nicht da. Erst wenn IQ.ini drin ist macht der PC freezer ,wieso da keine Sachen drin stehen was sollten ,weiss ich nicht keine Ahnung. Ach was solls .Ich gebe auf. Auf jeden Fall ist alles im Originalen hier.

    Russian engineers (to whom I am proud of myself) have a term (idiom, stable phrase) "protection from the fool." When calculating the strength of, for example, a door hinge, they proceed from the weight and width of the door, and then multiply it by a coefficient that protects against a fool who opens the door with his foot and slams it with all his foolishness.
    In the IQmonitor Pro program, the function of "foolproofing" was performed by a key that limited the ability (for beginners or oldies) to manipulate parameters that critically affect the operation of the program.
    Out of the kindness of my soul, and, as I now understood, out of my stupidity, I removed the restrictions associated with the key from the program (which became just an electronic signature - whoever does not have a key, does not have a signature for reporting materials).
    But I underestimated the power of the mind of users who began to run my program not only without the key, but also without the IQmonitor_Pro.ini and StreamReader.ini files! :45:
    Well, how does the poor StreamReader know to write a log file from which IQmonitor Pro receives information ?! :39:
    No "fool protection" will help here.


    How many times have I begged you to read carefully and do what I ask! : :38:

    Zitat

    IQmonitor Pro instalation


    To install the IQmonitor Pro program, you need to unpack the IQmonitor_Pro.zip archive and get the IQmonitor_Pro base directory, which contains the base of the program database, StreamReader and other files necessary for the program to work

    :75:

  • windows restarted all deleted all download again PRO 1.0.0.0

    .ini edited

    then started

    looking this. But making same on last Version i dont see "operator someone"

    and only see starting (this not already full started) and freezing ,moonbase says the same thing.

    and diseq not works correct too. There is any Problem.

    look to field "No Lock !" and no Diagramm

    in a fresh log only see this till freezeing after 20 Minutes no Diagramm .

    LOG:

    2317 - 23/09/2021 CheckForDVBEx(0x00000000)

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Power-off LNB on exit: ENABLED

    2317 - 23/09/2021 SendDiSEqC use 1 repeats

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Default modulation: AUTO

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Default spectral inversion: AUTO

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Default pilot: AUTO

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Default rolloff: AUTO

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Preffered BDA device type: AUTO

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Allowed IF Freq 950-2150 Mhz

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Inverted LOF<6000 and >21000 Mhz

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Available BDA-devices:

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Device 0

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Name: TBS 5990 DVBS/S2 Tuner A

    2317 - 23/09/2021 DevPath: \\?\usb#vid_734c&pid_5990&mi_01#7&d7af260&1&0001#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{1ccc78ef-411d-45ce-8789-10f0027f218c}

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Type: DVB-S/S2

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Index: 0

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Device 1

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Name: TBS 5990 DVBS/S2 Tuner B

    2317 - 23/09/2021 DevPath: \\?\usb#vid_734c&pid_5990&mi_01#7&d7af260&1&0001#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{30487ee4-5bb5-4c42-b078-1f8b1198ab12}

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Type: DVB-S/S2

    2317 - 23/09/2021 Index: 0

  • now started in newer version and look where is freezing.

    i see this :

    2334 - 23/09/2021 CheckForDVBEx(0x00000000)

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Power-off LNB on exit: ENABLED

    2334 - 23/09/2021 SendDiSEqC use 1 repeats

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Default modulation: AUTO

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Default spectral inversion: AUTO

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Default pilot: AUTO

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Default rolloff: AUTO

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Preffered BDA device type: AUTO

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Allowed IF Freq 950-2150 Mhz

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Inverted LOF<6000 and >21000 Mhz

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Available BDA-devices:

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Device 0

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Name: TBS 5990 DVBS/S2 Tuner A

    2334 - 23/09/2021 DevPath: \\?\usb#vid_734c&pid_5990&mi_01#7&d7af260&1&0001#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{1ccc78ef-411d-45ce-8789-10f0027f218c}

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Type: DVB-S/S2

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Index: 0

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Device 1

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Name: TBS 5990 DVBS/S2 Tuner B

    2334 - 23/09/2021 DevPath: \\?\usb#vid_734c&pid_5990&mi_01#7&d7af260&1&0001#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{30487ee4-5bb5-4c42-b078-1f8b1198ab12}

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Type: DVB-S/S2

    2334 - 23/09/2021 Index: 0

    2348 - 23/09/2021 StartDVBEx(0)

    2348 - 23/09/2021 Device_ID: 0

    2348 - 23/09/2021 Use Device 0



    i think this is my Problem ,cannot load


    2348 - 23/09/2021 StartDVBEx(0)

    only can starts with a trick. Where is waiting looong time.

    old Version 1.0.0.0 works . All other version have freeze for me.

    then using only Version 1.0.0.0

    by the way , I wanted only help system to work it better.

    so i must use other Program.

  • Das war definitiv meine letzte Meldung ,habe wirklich definitiv genug von dem Programm. Macht was ihr wollt. Ich lüge nicht .Iam dont lie.

    So und widme mich jetzt meinen anderen was auch immer. Immer diese Unterstellungen. Habe dieses seit 1982 nicht so erlebt. Da musste ich noch mit IR-Lesestreifen Maschinen füttern . Gott sei Dank waren es damals keine Personal-Computer .Die kamen später.

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    IQmonitor Pro 1.0.1.3 - the forerunner of origami transformation


    Recently I published IQmonitor Pro 1.0.1.3, the program has already been downloaded 56 times, but there is no "feedback" effect yet.

    IQmonitor Pro implements a new concept of analysis of "subthreshold" signals based on tunnel technology

    processing constellation IQ diagrams using my exclusive complex and computationally intensive algorithms.


    The problem of speeding up computations has been a pressing issue for a long time.

    The Japanese mathematicians Cooley and Tukey made a great contribution to speeding up many computational processes - they proposed

    fast Fourier transform (FFT) algorithm, in which the number of elementary operations with NxN is reduced to NxLnN.

    They achieved this with the help of clever binary tree sorting of analyzed samples from N samples.

    And knowledge of crystallography, where syngonies describe the properties of symmetry of crystals - the most modern containers

    substances in Euclidean space, led me to the idea of axial and mirror symmetry of IQ diagrams:



    The classic IQ constellation (left) has axial symmetry and 4 planes of mirror symmetry, two of which pass through the axes

    coordinates, and the other two orthogonal planes are rotated relative to them at an angle of 45 ° around the axis of symmetry of the constellation.

    After tunneling into the R/Fi space, the constellation on the right loses its central symmetry, but the number of planes

    mirror symmetry doubles and they (lo and behold!) become not orthogonal, but parallel.

    Now God himself ordered to fold the constellation along the lines of intersection of the planes of symmetry with its plane into an "accordion" and sum up

    chart values.


    As a result, instead of the R/Fi constellation, we get a strip, the area of which is 8 times smaller, and the statistical representativeness

    signal samples increased by 8 times, which is very good.

    We will replace operations on a constellation of NxN positions with operations on a total of NxN / 8 points and execute them 8 times faster, and the result

    constellation processing will have a root of eight (2.828 times) greater confidence.


    Then my inner voice with a snide asked: "You yourself understood what you wrote?" :174:

    I answer - I understood, because as a child I folded a piece of paper first into quarters, then diagonally and quickly with scissors

    carved a beautiful snowflake to decorate the tree :140: The New Year is still far away, and I hope that the inner voice will understand what is

    origami transformation of the constellation


    And I will try to implement this idea into the tunnel processing technology and implement it in the IQmonitor Pro program in the right

    side of the tablet - there is enough space:


    :163:

  • Greetings Yuri.:70:
    I'm not a mathematician or a programmer, so I don't understand what you wrote. For me, it is essential that the IQ monitor is able to find and lock more Tp than any other scanning program. It is probably still possible to improve the program, but maybe it is already limited by the capabilities of the used PC cards. Minor cosmetic adjustments would be needed, but not necessary.
    Thanks for the perfect job.:48:

    Geoposition: 48,71N, 21,92E. Promax Ranger Neo 2, TBS5925 :73: , TBS6983, TBS6903, TBS6903x, TBS6903x V2, TBS6522, TBS5520SE, TBS5927, TBS5590, Prof7301, PF 250cm, ADE antenna 370cm. Full band LNBs: S, L, C: NJS8487S PLL , NJS8488S PLL, X PLL, Ku NJR2842S PLL, Bullseye 10kHz PLL, full Ka band PLL, and other iron for DX reception, 53W - 98E. :68:

  • Für mich unlogisch ist das Verhalten des Button "Extra - careful blind scanning". Im dF-Modus findet der IQMonitor sogar weniger Transponder bei gesetzten Button.


    The behavior of the "Extra - careful blind scanning" button is illogical to me. In the dF mode, the IQMonitor even finds fewer transponders when the button is set.







    Einigermaßen verständlich, dass er nicht gefunden wurde ist der Transponder 12137 V mit min. C/N lock 9.4

    Bei den anderen Transpondern ist es unverständlich

    Die im Feedreport ausgegebenen Werte haben mit der Realität keine Übereinstimmung und können sich ändern, wenn man die Frequenz auch nur um 1 MHz verändert.


    Somewhat understandable that it was not found is the 12137 V transponder with at least C/N lock 9.4

    It is incomprehensible with the other transponders

    The values given in the feed report do not correspond to reality and can change if the frequency is changed by even 1 MHz.








    Ein etwas ungewöhnliches Bild auf 12330 V bei TestMER


    A somewhat unusual picture on 12330 V with TestMER


    Wer nicht die Antennengröße und den ungefähren Standort angibt, postet sinnlos, sofern es um eine Signalerfassung geht.

    If you don't specify the antenna size and the approximate location, posting is useless if it's about signal acquisition.

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    Hallo Femi ,

    ich weiss nicht wo diese Knopf "Extra - careful blind scanning" ist.

    Ich habe versucht genau wie bei Dir es zu machen , sowohl mit 1,80m als auch mit 1,20

    mir ist nichts aufgefallen , alle Transponder sind gut und richtig gefunden.

    Eine Frage noch : warum IQ/N auf 5000, es ist sehr sehr viel , und bringt wirklich nicht in diesem Fall

    ausser langsamer zu sein .

  • Hier ist der Button


    Ich weiß noch nicht genau warum, könnte vielleicht am grenzwertigen Signal der T90 liegen.

    Aber was passiert dann wenn eine 180er, 240er an die Empfangsgrenzen kommt :25:

    Mal sehen wie das auf der Lami aussieht.

    Wer nicht die Antennengröße und den ungefähren Standort angibt, postet sinnlos, sofern es um eine Signalerfassung geht.

    If you don't specify the antenna size and the approximate location, posting is useless if it's about signal acquisition.

  • An der Laminas lief es ander ab.

    Ob das "nicht finden" einen Zusammenhang mit den ausgeblendeten Frequenzbereichen hat?


    At the Laminas it was different.

    Whether the "not finding" has a connection with the faded out frequency ranges?





    Und dann machte ich auf 11070 einen Feedreport und staunte ..

    And then I made a feed report on 11070 and was amazed.



    Wer nicht die Antennengröße und den ungefähren Standort angibt, postet sinnlos, sofern es um eine Signalerfassung geht.

    If you don't specify the antenna size and the approximate location, posting is useless if it's about signal acquisition.

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    Guten Morgen femi ,

    Ich habe auch mit dieser Extra Taste probiert .

    Ergebnis sind nicht so toll , sogar nicht gut .

    Wie Strannik es bei der Anleitung beschrieben hat , mit Vorsicht zu nutzen .

    Anscheinend ist es wirklich nur für besondere Dinge gemacht , aber welche ?

    Solang man nicht weiss wofür lasse ich diese Taste wo sie ist , ohne diese zu nutzen .


    Good morning femi ,

    I have also tried with this extra button .

    Result are not so great , even not good .

    As Strannik described it in the instructions , use with caution .

    Apparently it is really only made for special things , but which ones ?

    As long as you don't know what it's for, I leave this button where it is without using it.


    Доброе утро, femi,

    Я также пробовал с этой дополнительной кнопкой.

    Результаты не очень хорошие, даже не очень хорошие.

    Как описал Strannik в инструкции, используйте с осторожностью.

    По-видимому, он действительно создан только для особых вещей, но каких?

    Пока вы не знаете, для чего она нужна, я оставляю эту кнопку на месте, не используя ее.

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    @femi

    Dear Colleague!

    First, I want to thank you for your active use of the program, and then apologize that I rarely and do not answer you right away.

    There are reasons for this - lack of time and effort.


    I want to have time to do something that no one else has done for many years, because modern science denies obtaining high-resolution spectra on PCI cards with a 5 MHz filter in the tuner, as well as studying the characteristics of "subthreshold" DVB signals. However, it denies the possibility of registering dynamic spectra due to the low speed of chips and imperfect drivers for them ...


    So, for example, the driver - StreamReader bundle cannot work with a frequency step less than 1 MHz - the RF spectrum is obtained in the form of steps 1 MHz wide, and BlindScan refuses to work in the CrazyScan program at all - this has long been proven.


    And now to the point.

    Many years ago, my friend Stephan discovered groups of ultra-low-speed transponders on several satellites, which were located close to each other in frequency and none of the programs I knew could lock them all at the same time. In the process of our joint work on this problem, at first, the possibility of blind search with a step of up to 0.1 MHz was implemented, and then the Extra mode appeared, in which the signal capture range (in the program this is the +/- delta F parameter) was reduced to a minimum commensurate with a step in frequency.

    This minimum is different for different cards and drivers:

    - for OMICOM and TechniSat 100 kHz;

    - for TBS 6983 and the like - 0.5MHz.


    Let's see how this affects the effectiveness of blind search.

    First, we set the frequency step to 5 MHz, and the signal capture bandwidth to 8 MHz:



    22 transponders locked in 166 seconds

    Turn on the Extra checkbox and repeat the search using the same parameters:



    Only 6 transponders were locked in 300 seconds! :45:

    What's the matter?

    In the first case, the search band overlapped between adjacent steps in frequency by 3 MHz, and in the second case, the Extra checkbox narrowed the search band to 1 MHz, and we had "blind" zones between adjacent steps, where the program did not search for a signal at all.:77:


    Reduce the frequency search step to 1 MHz:



    The search time increased to 707 seconds, but due to the denser search network, it was possible to find 1 more transponder:


    Turn on the Extra mode:



    The search time increased to 834 seconds, but we missed 4 transponders ...


    In HR mode, the frequency search step is determined by the pixel step and for this tablet was dF = 1.72 MHz.

    29 transponders locked in 559 seconds:


  • Danke nochmals für die ausführliche Erklärung Yuri

    Thanks again for the detailed explanation Yuri


    Mit der optimierten Einstellung geht auch 12137, welcher bei meinem Feed-Vergleichstest überall Probleme machte, egal, es waren überall gleiche Bedingungen.


    KU LNB vergleich auf 28° ost


    The optimized setting also works with 12137, which caused problems everywhere in my feed comparison test, it doesn't matter, the conditions were the same everywhere.

    Wer nicht die Antennengröße und den ungefähren Standort angibt, postet sinnlos, sofern es um eine Signalerfassung geht.

    If you don't specify the antenna size and the approximate location, posting is useless if it's about signal acquisition.

  • In the meantime I have tested the streamreader 119 with the IQMonitor


    TBS6908 ok

    TBS5927 ok

    TBS6925 ok

    TBS 5580 not tested

    TBS6903x RFscan fail, BlindScan works but extremly slow as always. It is a waste of time to think about this card.

    Wer nicht die Antennengröße und den ungefähren Standort angibt, postet sinnlos, sofern es um eine Signalerfassung geht.

    If you don't specify the antenna size and the approximate location, posting is useless if it's about signal acquisition.

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    The latest and current version of IQmonitor Pro is 1.0.1.3

    Errors and problems of previous versions, please do not discuss

    Posts discussing bugs, which are probably fixed in the latest version, clog the topic and will be deleted.

    Thank you for understanding.

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    Um nicht voll O.T in 16° ost KA Band Bereich zu sein

    schreibe ich hier mein Ergebnis im KU-Band auf 16° Ost.

    Das Rauschen ist nicht so hoch wie beim KA-Band.

    Könnte es an dem Switch ( zwischen den LNB ) liegen?


    In order not to be fully O.T. in 16° east KA band range

    I write here my result in the KU band at 16° East.

    The noise is not as high as in the KA band.

    Could it be due to the switch (between the LNBs)?


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