57.0°E NSS-12 <East Africa>

  • My no lock day ...:37:


    New TP 10986 H 45000 3/4 QPSK2, not so far to lock.


    PS: I ask moderators to make some cleaning in 57E toppics:

    10975 H was CE beam

    11545H in CE ,belongs here

    11070 H is probably feed, thanks

    Location: Zilina,Slovakia

    Kathrein 220cm, Ku+C band, 88E-55.5W
    Cупрал PF 200cm,Ku+C band, 78.5E-37.5W
    Kovosat 115cm, Ku band, 76,5E-55.5W
    Kovosat 115cm, KaD band,


    DR HD F15,Octagon SF8008
    TBS 6983

  • New scan omicom.


    CAH2

    Dreamsat

    12.12.2020 11069 H

    DVB-S/QPSK

    MPEG-2 2500 3/4 Kenya TV F 308 256 1

    65535-1 NSS-12

    CentralAsia regular channel

    Dreamsat

    17.12.2020

    i think it feeds.

    Helyszín: Nádudvar, magyar.

    ECHOSTAR X-12 3,8 m hálós antenna.
    2.4.x2.7.m Laminas.
    2,2 méteres fókusz.
    1.8.x2.0.m Északi műhold NSC 18-1
    1,8 m elsődleges fókuszban Dyras.
    C, Ku sáv 95.0Kelet-55.5West.

  • Just my poor signal from this one (11165 H 45000 3/4 DVB-S2 QPSK).

    This freq best signal between 8am 3pm CET. No signal in the evenings.

    Location: Hatvan/Hungary
    C band: dyras 175cm (83E-34W), Kaonsat 13K LNB
    Jonsa 240cm PFA (40.5W), Kaonsat 13K LNB
    KU band: 120cm offset+Invero BU single LNB
    Receivers: VU+zero 4K, Ustym 4K pro

  • This time I managed to lock EthioSat package from 11544 H.

    Images

    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

  • Although this topic is dedicated to East Africa spot,certainly not all transponders found by IQmonitor are from that area(?!).But I'm sure the high band are from the Middle East,because the signal is pretty strong on my area. And yet locking it is quite difficult with all the dvb applications that I have used. Of these,with IQmonitor and Crazyscan,I manages to lock the most transponders with the S2X extension.
    For NSS-12 I used the tbs6983 card for 10950-11700 MHz,and between 12500-12750 MHz the tbs6903X card.

    I confess that I'm curious if another dx gets with the 6983 card the same transponders with the same parameters with IQmonitor when searching manually,especially on the Vertical polarity,and for High Band with the tbs6903X or tbs6909X card?

    I am convinced that there are more active transponders with S2X extension in the upper band than the ones I found,but for that I have to have a bigger antenna than I have now.For example only now I managed to (re)lock 12659 H,3960,1/4 after a very long time, more precisely when I first discovered it in 2019.Perhaps the best placed geographically to check this is Kypros_Pambou,which as far as I know, I hope not to be wrong,has the 6903X card.But that doesn't mean that someone else doesn't try to check the upper band with the reception equipment and dvb devices that they have.

    I think it's worth the effort for the reception of NSS-12,because of the spots outside the European area,is one of those satellite that should be a challenge for any dx.

    Thanks :3:


    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

  • My scan with 2.1m
    Exist a carrier at 12605 H & 12667 without locking

    Thanks for posting the spectrum at 57.0E in your area.It's obvious you have a stronger signal at this position than in my area.I wonder,though,why Crazyscan couldn't find and lock more transponders?

    It is true that not always in auto search the application finds them,but now that we know which transponders are reported,it is recommended to activate them manually,such as at 12551H,3500,12640 H,932,12646 H,6070,etc,also at 12604 H,3800 and 12604 H,800.

    It is true that discovering and locking the signal also depends on the search steps.This applies to all dvb card models,including tbs6903x.In the case of the 6903x card,when we already know that ultra fast scan is not provided,we,as users,must learn to use this card as a driver who knows his own car engine.

    I would not want to go into detail about the technique of using Crazyscan or other dvb applications,which have to do with reception conditions,signal propagation,antenna size,weather,and even dvb cards,etc.That's what you learn along the way,if you use these apps a lot.And the chances of finding and locking a signal is favored,as is known,primarily by a large antenna.If I were you,I'd try to scan more times by setting different search steps each time,and if he doesn't find anything,I'd try to manually to lock the signal.

    But next to Crazyscan,I'd also use IQmonitor.And,yes,I especially post the spectrum with this application,HR Spectrum Mode,because it's very good when you have to read the parameters and the problematic signal.It is true that when searching manually,IQmonitor gives errors/bugs. But I should write about this on @Strannik's topic.

    In short,I would ask too much to try to scan again with both applications on high band at 57.0 E?

    Thanks in advance :3:

    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

  • I agree completely with all these that you wrote my friend. The next days i will make again a full satellite scan and i hope with my big dish to lock the East Africa beam

    Owner of Cy Satellite Center
    Dreambox 8000HDssss,7080HDss,7020HD,Vu Solo 4K,Tandberg Prof.Receiver
    TBS 6985,6983,6925 PCI,5925usb
    Pace & Arris IPTV Gateways

    AMS 3.4m & Titosat 2.1m motorised

  • ...The next days i will make again a full satellite scan and i hope with my big dish to lock the East Africa beam

    I await your result.I did high-band tests again today with other dvb cards(tbs6909X,6522,6983).As you can see,the best is tbs6909X, which knows how to handle the signal best but also because it has support for the s2X extension.Maybe it helps you,more indicatively,to lock more transponders.

    By the way,I get the distinct impression that before a signal test, this position is more like a cards test that we use,no matter what we think ourself,amateurs or dxers.Of course we're lucky that these S2X extension transponders are for Data,whose signal is not required to be very strong.Even with weaker signal,we're still able to lock with 6903X/6909X cards.But I wonder,what would happen to have more S2X transponders with TV packages one after the other?However,only on this satellite do we have more transponders with this extension.But my question is for the future...


    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

  • Just another look on that beam from my place - still all unlocked here (of course):

    10985 H 45000 3/4 DVB-S2 QPSK (2.2dB)

    11105 H 45000 3/4 DVB-S2 QPSK (0.8dB)

    11165 H 45000 3/4 DVB-S2 QPSK (2.3dB) -> 1.7dB more needed to lock... :77:

    11545 H 30000 5/6 DVB-S (parameter)

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