tbs6590 card

  • (Because the forum cannot accept more than 10000 characters, I have to present this article in several tranches.)


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    TBS6590 Multi Standard Dual Tuner Dual CI PCI-e Card


    In the following,I present the tbs6950 card,as tested on a computer running Windows 10. The

    tbs6590 card, having the same hardware components as the tbs6522 card (chip Silicon Labs Si218

    and Silab 2157 tuners), allow to you watch and/record simultaneously two tv programs on different

    channels (which can be broadcast in different standards). Compared with the 6522 card, the tbs6590

    has two CI slots, which allows for the utilisation of two CAM modules,and by using a valid card (or

    two cards) it makes possible to watch and record coded tv programs, regardless of the employed

    digital standard (the recording is done on computer, by using dvbs players).



    The TBS6590 will take SCV-S2,DVB-T2/T,DVB-C2/C standards, that is, practically everything that a

    true dxer needs today. Changing from one digital standard to another is easily done, as long as both

    tuners are fed with signal. Thus, the tuners of the hard drive will process simultaneously two

    different frequencies and standards, such as satellite/cable, cable/terrestrial, satellite/terrestrial.

    Also, my tests have shown that they are capable of receiving two different frequencies from the

    same digital standard or two tv programs from the same frequency.

    As with the 6522 card, we must recognize that it is a great advantage to have access to different

    signal sources and different transmission standards, without having to change the cable. But above

    all, in order to choose the signal source and the standard that we want,it is mandatory to use the

    ChangeModeTool utility, specially made for 6590. With its help, we initialize the tuners for the digital

    standard we want.

    Then I checked and viewed a tv channel from Astra and one cable channel by using DVBDream

    players. Switching from one tv program to another, regardless of standard and frequency, is the

    same as on any tbs card. Also using the ChangeModeTool, I picked tuner 0 for cable and tuner 1 for

    terrestrial. To watch programes on cable and terrestrial, I used the DVBDream players, which in my

    opinion are the best at handling bda drivers.

    I did the same for receiving the satellite and terrestrial signal, and then viewing both channels on

    both standards simultaneously.

    The first combination I chose with ChangeModeTool was for satellite and cable signal reception,

    i.e.tuner 0 for Astra at 19.2E,and tuner 1 for cable from RCS-RDS provider. To be sure that the tool

    initiated correctly the signal sources, I used the utilities Crazyscan for satellite and Crazyscan2 for

    cable.Scanning with the two utilities can be done separately or simultaneously. As I had a signal at

    both tuners, I scanned both standards directly at the same time and encountered no problem.



    Then I checked and viewed a tv channel from Astra and one cable channel by using DVBDream

    players. Switching from one tv program to another, regardless of standard and frequency, is the

    same as on any tbs card.



    Also using the ChangeModeTool,I picked tuner 0 for cable and tuner 1 for terrestrial. To watch tv

    programes on cable and terrestrial I used the DVBDream players, which in my opinion are the best at

    handling bda drivers.

    I did the same for receiving the satellite and terrestrial signal, and then viewing both channels on

    both standards simultaneously.


    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

  • 2.

    As I mentioned before, the tuners of the 6590 card manage the simultaneous reception of two

    frequencies from the same standard. In ChangeModeTool I initialized both tuners, i.e. 0 and 1 for

    simultaneous reception of satellite/satellite standard, following which I was able to receive two tv

    programs from two satellites by using DVB players. On this occasion, I checked the standard DVB-S2X

    on tuner 0, choosing the Swiss package from

    33.1E and tuner 1, where I received an UHD package from 19.2E. Changing and switching from one

    channel to another or different transponders from two satellites went smoothly. Receiving flawless

    feed and watching simultaneously are entirely dependent on the capabilities of one's computer.



    Once the simultaneous reception of signal from two satellites was accomplished, I proceded to the

    testing of the two tuners of card for reception of two programs of cable. I attached a cable from my

    cable company, RCS-RDI, to each tuner of the card and by again using the ChangeModeTool I picked

    the same DVB-C standard for both tuners. I checked for signal(with Crazyscan2) and then I started

    two DVBDream players, each from its own folder to receive two programs from cable. As I expected,

    each player had signal, so I could watch two programs from cable at the same time.



    Even better, I recorded a program while watching another one in real time. For terrestrial reception,

    an important test for the tuners of 6590 card is the simultaneous reception from the same standard

    and from the same frequency. As in my earlier test, I checked the signal on each tuner with

    Crazyscan2 and then I started two DreamDVB players. I was pleased to immediately be able to watch

    two programs from the TVR package on both players.


    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

  • 3.

    Switching from one channel to another on one of the players was done quickly, and on the other

    player somewhat more slowly but, once it was accessed the program ran smoothly and quite well,

    without interruption or microcubs. The slow switching from one program to another on one the

    players I considered to have been caused by the players both using the same computer capacity.

    The salient point for those interested in this card is its capacity to receive multistream signal,

    especially Italian and French packages from 5.0W, but also tv packages from other satellites, such as

    12.5W, 4.9E or 39.0E.



    It should be noted that locking signal on the Crazyscan signal on multistream transponders is done

    only manually. Of course,it is mandatory to enter the correct PLS code into each transponder while

    scanning. When you are not sure that you have signal on a multistream transponder, Crazyscan is

    indispensable. It will show immediately whether the tuner was initialized for satellite or whether the

    chosen transponder has a useful signal. Once each transponder with its respective code is

    memorized, dvbs players can play tv programs directly, as soon as they are switched on. Nothing

    further needed to be done, and thus, switching from one channel to the other was done as quickly

    as with a common transponder. TBS6590 has an option for watching multistream programs.

    Untill recently, for viewing multistream packages broadcast on T2-MI standard using PLP protocol

    such as the two transponders from 4.9E (12180 and 12341 GH) but also other transponders from Ku-

    band, (for instance from those 53E) you needed to have special application-4T2 Content Analyser.

    Luckily, given the increased interest of users for such a standard T2-MI, some developers of DVBs

    applications have broadened the area of utilisation of this application so that now they can lock scan

    and memorize multistream packages directly with DVBs player. Such a player is SmartDVB which I

    used to memorize the MIS Zeon Package from Astra 4A (4.9E) on 12.188 MHz, H, 30000, 5/6, DVB-S2

    8SK, T2-MI and 12341 H, 30000, 5/6, DVB-s2/8PSk, T2-MI. All tv channels could be memorized and

    then viewed without problems.


    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

  • 4.

    Another important feature that I checked on the 6590 card is the symbol rate. The Manufacturer

    gave its value to be between 1-45 Msps. In other words, the manufacturer gives no guarantee for

    small SRs and in practice, the 6590 responds differently when symbol rates are under the value of

    1000 Ks. At times, I managed to lock signal at around 500 Kps symbol rate, at other times, I failed to

    do so. I hoped to be able to lock an SR of 256 Ks when the signal appeared on the bar, but it was not

    to be. It would have been too much to ask for lock at such low value of the symbol rate and the

    explanation is very simple: The card was designed and manufactured to be used for multi standard

    reception of tv programs, that is, for viewing tv programs and not for very low SR signals.

    Mention should be made that I had not difficulty with tbs6590 when I tried to switch satellite by

    using the diseqc EMP Centauri switch on 16 lnbs toroidal antena. Switching from one satellite to

    another was normal, as was the case with cards that I tested.I noticed a short delay on switching

    only when the signal was weak. I have to say that I did not test disecq 1.2 for moving the antenna. In

    any case the card comes with connecting cable for just such an operation (for added security in its

    long term use).

    So far we have reviewed and tested a number of basic features of the tbs6590 card which we also

    find on the 6522 model (S2X extension, etc.); now we have to see the novelty that the card brings,

    i.e. the two CI slots for CAM (ConditionalAccesModul). This is not a novelty when it comes to cards

    but providing the 6590 with this Interface is welcome.

    I tested the reception of two roumanian packages, Freesat (16.0E) and FocusSat (1.0W). First, using

    the Conax access module and a valid Freesat card I tried to view coded programs on DVBDream

    player.

    Inserting the CAM in the slot was very easy, and when physical contact was established between this

    and the device, a led was switched on, telling us that the two components are connected (through a

    slit of the fan, I could check whether the led was on, signalling that the module was in the right slot).

    Very important notice: never insert or remove the CAM from the CI slot while the computer is on,

    because there is a risk for the card to be destroyed.

    At first try, I detected no "light" from the coded program. I had to access the DreamDVB player

    manually to activate (by checking) the TBS CI module on the player list of modules. Once it was

    done, the first coded channel opened, followed by the rest of the package. I detected no delays on

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    switching from one coded channel to another. In this respect there is no difference in decoding,

    compared to the other devices carrying CAM.

    For the second CI slot of TBS6590 card I used a Conax module and the FocusSat smartcard, choosing

    at random a program from tv packages broadcast on Thor at 1.0W, using the same DVBDream. The

    program chosen at random (TVR1) was decoded instantly.

    For the simultaneous reception of coded packages on the two satellites, I chose a DVBViewer player

    for Freesat package and DVBDream player for Focus package. From the menu of both players I chose

    the CAM decoding interface in order to obtain all the information that they and the smart cards

    contained. Having the proper modules and smartcards in both slots of the card, I could choose and

    view simultaneously coded channels from both packages. I also made a direct recording with the

    player, while watching a program in real time on the other one. Switching from one coded channel

    to another was fast, with no delay, as was the case with CI receivers.



    As I had a CAM Diablo light at my disposal, I also tested it on the TBS6590 card. I encountered no

    problems, as the card detected and I could watch coded programs, either from Freesat or from

    Focusat by using one of the Conax smartcards. In the absence of the necessary CAM and Smartcards,

    I was unable to test other coding systems from other program providers; I am certain nevertheless

    that they can be used without any problems.

    Of course I tried to make some tests with smartcard CI+ from Digi TV in order to decode coded

    programs broadcast by cable by using tbs6590 card but all my attempts were unsuccessful. I later

    learned from the manufacturer that the 6590 card has no support for CI+ (at least not for Windows).

    After running many tests on the tbs6590 card, I can say that it is meant primarily for buyers who

    wish to receive and view simultaneously tv programs broadcast in several standards, satellite, cable

    and terrestrial. It is not meant to be used by those in search of weak signal or special reception. It

    however has capabilities similar to the professional cards, such as the reception of 16PSK feeds or

    multistream broadcast. The manufacturer optimized the driver, so that access to different

    broadcasting standards is done more easely and safely, without the glitches that we encountered

    initially with the 6522 card, which were later remedied. Flexibility and ease of use, regardless of the

    standard employed, are the strong suits of this card, to which we can add the two CI slots.

    Concerning the latter, I was pleasantly surprised that the two CAMs, used simultaneously on these

    two slots, did not warm up, even after hours of use.

    If I were to mention a weakness,this would be the fact that the manufacturer did not provide a CI+

    support on Windows, perhaps for licensing reasons(?).


    ps_Although the tbs6590 is two years old, I have been asked by some enthusiasts to say a few words about this card. Because I don't have time to present it anymore, I thought that some of the comments I made in an older review are still valid.That's why I'm posting it hic et nunc._

    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

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    very good review, so the 2 boards work the same way different there is only the Ci
    Thank you

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