• I tried to use the one on the right with LO 11.8 GHz but got no signal. Instead, I got in / repeated frequencies below.
    I wonder if the extension signal is that weak in my area(?), because in Ku-band, I have almost a DTH signal on Turksat at 42.0E.

    I have to keep trying. :3:

    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

  • qwer  satesco

    I think that there are big problems with the BWEI LNBs on Ext KU. They appear to have very poor image rejection which gives the effect you see. It is especially bad on 42E due to the strong signals below 12.75GHz. I don't think they have much RF filtering. There is also the problem of unwanted sampling modes in TBS and other cards.

    One way to check if you are 'seeing' an image is to look at the Spectrum box on CS which usually shows 'Inverted' on most signals. If it shows as non-inverted, it's likely to be an image response.

    My modified SMW is a 12.25-12.75GHz PLL which had an LO of 11.3GHz. I have changed the LO to 11.75GHz and tried to improve the performance on ext Ku. However although the NF is 2dB, the gain is 20dB down compared to its response at 12GHz. I use a 1.5GHz high pass filter followed by an 18dB gain amplifier in the IF. I still see an increase in noise when pointing at the strongest satellites and this is probably caused by front end overload.

    1.2m Prodelin 3122 az-el (Not in use) with one of:
    S: Helical feed, 0.8dB NF LNA, X: 1.2dB NF LNA, conical feed, Ku 12-18GHz: corrugated conical feed, 1.5dB NF LNA, Ku (Standard): SMW Q-PLL type C, Prodelin feed. Ku (Extended): 11.3GHz LO SMW & Prodelin Feed Ka: Gilat ex-ODU PLLs Gilat feeds, Ka 18-26.5GHz: Patriot feed, home made 4dB NF LNA, Ka DSN: Corrugated conical feed, 3dB NF Down-Converter

    1.8m PF, Polar mount with Bullseye C120 LNB, Precision/Elite feed
    40km East of London, UK

  • Nothing from 13497 H 13330 on 1.2m from my place - only carreir on 13526 H is visible here...

    :49: /edit: Sorry guys... it´s my vertical spectrum here! :77:

    Okay... sorry about my last scan above, it was from vertical spectrum... but now, I´ve changed in horizontal spectrum (it seems)...probably a more exactly skew is needed for a better signal... scan with 1.2m KATHREIN Offset antenna...


    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • I optimized LNB skew for horizontal range

    Now I reach about 6.0dB over LM on my 1.2m dish from my pace on TC at:
    13497 H 13330 3/4 DVB-S

    PS: I´m using CS tool for showing correct polarisation here.

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • Good signal for my 1.2m in the early evening hours... about 7.5dB over LM on:
    13497 H 13330 3/4 DVB-S

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • 13497 H 13330 3/4 DVB-S

    13497 H and peak on 13526 H have left...

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • Wenn das Spektrum auch noch dazu passt, ist die Welt für mich wieder in Ordnung

    If you don't specify the antenna size and the approximate location, posting is useless if it's about signal acquisition.

    A car belongs on the road, not in the settings.

    Dish & Location

    N 48.602 E 15.553

    240 Irte (Ku/C)

    180 Laminas stationary (KaEABCD/Ku/C/X), mobil (all)

    120 Laminas (Ku)

    100 (Ku, 7°E/1.9°E/1°W), 85 (Ku, 13°E/16°E/19.2°E)

  • Just a look in year 2025... nothing appeared in horizontal extended range...

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

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