10.0°E Eutelsat 10B

  • 12688 V,9090,1/2,S2,0.10-Data, new

    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

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    Transponder PID-Scan...

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    PID found: 0 (0x0000) [SECTION: Program Association Table (PAT)]

    PID found: 16 (0x0010) [SECTION: Network Information Table (NIT) - actual network]

    PID found: 17 (0x0011) [SECTION: Service Description Table (SDT) - actual transport stream]

    PID found: 36 (0x0024) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)]

    PID found: 37 (0x0025) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)]

    PID found: 38 (0x0026) [SECTION: Network Information Table (NIT) - other network]

    PID found: 1347 (0x0543) [SECTION: DSM-CC - private data section // DVB datagram]

    PID found: 2098 (0x0832) [SECTION: ATSC reserved]

    PID found: 2099 (0x0833) [SECTION: ATSC reserved]

    PID found: 5632 (0x1600) [unknown]

    Location: Banska Bystrica, Slovakia
    Ku-Band: 50°West - 95°East Gibertini OP100 (1,0m)
    Ku-Band: 5°West - 39°East WaveFrontier T90 (0,9m)
    Ku-Band LNB: Avenger PLL321S-2 PLL
    Tuner: TBS 5925&5530&5220, EDISION MIO+ 4K, Mut@nt HD51, Dreambox 900UHD&7020HD

  • Just starting a new toppic here...

    10822 V 30112

    11381 H 36800

    11484 H 16188 - very low signal

    12527 V 2333

    12533 V 1145

    12597 V 1000

  • One more:

    11538 V 57130 - I think this one uses also S2X

    PS: There is another one on 11560 H, but I do not know SR...?

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • 11408 V,25540,1/4, S2,Multi 1->254-GS,new,

    11408 H,25540,1/4, S2,Multi 1->254-GS,new,

    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

  • 10920 H & 10911 V 63900 1/4

    I don't think about a coincidence with these reports @61°W ...:Amazonas 6

    same SR, same MIS

    Feedsat's Setup

    - Wineguard Micromesh 3.10 m

    - Channel Master PFA 3.10 m

    - Laminas 1.80 m

    - 2 X Channel Master 1.80 m

    - Channel Master 2.40 m

    - KU, KU Ext.,Full KA, X, C & C Ext

    - TBS5925 -TBS6522 - TBS6983 - DTA2137CSXP

    - NS2000 - RX8200 - ADV-6000S

    - TM1 - TC1 - SR1 - MATRIX DEV1982

    - Promax TV II+

    - Dual Axis multi Antennas controller

    - EGIS - LNB Changer

    - Venture motorisations

    - 78.5°E (KU) <> 65°W (C)

    - Loc: France

  • 10920 H & 10911 V 63900 1/4

    I don't think about a coincidence with these reports @61°W ...:Amazonas 6

    same SR, same MIS

    ...

    I couldn't find the two muxes 10920 H and 10911 V at 10.0E. Are they still active in your area?

    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

  • Yes

    Feedsat's Setup

    - Wineguard Micromesh 3.10 m

    - Channel Master PFA 3.10 m

    - Laminas 1.80 m

    - 2 X Channel Master 1.80 m

    - Channel Master 2.40 m

    - KU, KU Ext.,Full KA, X, C & C Ext

    - TBS5925 -TBS6522 - TBS6983 - DTA2137CSXP

    - NS2000 - RX8200 - ADV-6000S

    - TM1 - TC1 - SR1 - MATRIX DEV1982

    - Promax TV II+

    - Dual Axis multi Antennas controller

    - EGIS - LNB Changer

    - Venture motorisations

    - 78.5°E (KU) <> 65°W (C)

    - Loc: France

  • Thanks for the spectrum on Eutel 10B. :3:

    Strangely, on my analyzer, there is no signal at all on the two muxes. I wonder if there is such a big difference between the Eutelsat 10B spots?

    Or are they local tests, which got you thinking when you compared them with the two muxes on Amazonas 6?

    I scanned the satellite again and nothing showed up on my spectrum. :25:

    added: I forgot to ask you, with which antenna did you get this signal?

    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

  • 1.80m for all my KU band scans as usually

    SPOT beams I think

    check your scan and mine:

    Feedsat's Setup

    - Wineguard Micromesh 3.10 m

    - Channel Master PFA 3.10 m

    - Laminas 1.80 m

    - 2 X Channel Master 1.80 m

    - Channel Master 2.40 m

    - KU, KU Ext.,Full KA, X, C & C Ext

    - TBS5925 -TBS6522 - TBS6983 - DTA2137CSXP

    - NS2000 - RX8200 - ADV-6000S

    - TM1 - TC1 - SR1 - MATRIX DEV1982

    - Promax TV II+

    - Dual Axis multi Antennas controller

    - EGIS - LNB Changer

    - Venture motorisations

    - 78.5°E (KU) <> 65°W (C)

    - Loc: France

  • Thanks again, Feedsat.

    I think it is clear to me now that the difference in signal is due to both the different sizes of our antennas, and also to the areas where we receive this signal.

    Now another mux appears at 11441 H on your spectrum, but very weak even on the 1.80m antenna. I'm not even looking for this one.

    It seems that on this Eutelsat both polarities are used on the same frequency, like the two you posted. If on others, 11375 HV, 11408 HV, and 11262 HV, the signal is at the same level on both polarities, on the latter, it is different in strength. On the Horizontal pole, it is stronger than on the Vertical.

    Signal differences between different areas of the continent seem to have dissatisfied many users when Eutelsat became operational, starting with Eumetsat customers and others.

    In fact, the message is clear: Gone are the days when we could receive satellites even with relatively small antennas(especially true for me). The moral for enthusiasts was and still is, as it was in the past, use only large antennas, buy the latest signal processing devices, and update apps.

    Best regards :74:

    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

  • 11003 H 9522

    Feedsat's Setup

    - Wineguard Micromesh 3.10 m

    - Channel Master PFA 3.10 m

    - Laminas 1.80 m

    - 2 X Channel Master 1.80 m

    - Channel Master 2.40 m

    - KU, KU Ext.,Full KA, X, C & C Ext

    - TBS5925 -TBS6522 - TBS6983 - DTA2137CSXP

    - NS2000 - RX8200 - ADV-6000S

    - TM1 - TC1 - SR1 - MATRIX DEV1982

    - Promax TV II+

    - Dual Axis multi Antennas controller

    - EGIS - LNB Changer

    - Venture motorisations

    - 78.5°E (KU) <> 65°W (C)

    - Loc: France

  • Here are my results on 2,2m in range 10.70 to 11.50 GHz from my place. Just compared to Feedsat scans above in this toppic... :72:

    10822 V 30112 - ecncrypted VPID 2048/APID 8001 - probably "my" beam :26. , according above scan from Feedsat

    10827 H 36811 - lockable here too on low signal -> Feedsat spot beam :26.

    10911 V 63900 - probably "my" beam, according above scan from Feedsat

    10920 H 63900 - lockable here too on low signal -> Feedsat spot beam

    11002 H 9524 - lockable here too on low signal -> Feedsat spot beam

    11381 H 36800 - ecncrypted VPID 2048/APID 8001 - strong signal...probably "my" beam...?

    11382 V 36821 - low signal ... not really "my" beam

    11439 H 63900 - strong signal...probably "my" beam...?

    11440 V 63900 - low signal ... not really "my" beam

    PS: posted GS frequencies in scans from satesco are not visible in our (Feedsat and mine) spectrum:

    11408 H and V with SR 25540

    So there is another spot beam for satesco... :26.

  • 11382 V 36821 - low signal ... not really "my" beam

    ...possible to show NIT here

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • Here my upper band - nothing new lockable, still there:

    12527 V 2333

    12533 V 1145

    12597 V 1000

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • 11381 H 36800 - ecncrypted VPID 2048/APID 8001 - strong signal...probably "my" beam...?

    If 11381 H is a spot for Western Europe, then 11376 H is a spot for Eastern Europe

    broadcasts in several modes (modcode?)

    an encoded CNN is available in one of them

    likewise 11382 V for Western Europe and 11377 V for Eastern Europe (but weaker than 11376 H)

    due to the weaker signal, the third mode is difficult to pick up

    Location: Banska Bystrica, Slovakia
    Ku-Band: 50°West - 95°East Gibertini OP100 (1,0m)
    Ku-Band: 5°West - 39°East WaveFrontier T90 (0,9m)
    Ku-Band LNB: Avenger PLL321S-2 PLL
    Tuner: TBS 5925&5530&5220, EDISION MIO+ 4K, Mut@nt HD51, Dreambox 900UHD&7020HD

    Edited 2 times, last by EnoSat (September 18, 2023 at 2:42 AM).

  • 10E - maybe -

    10733 V/H - Wide beam

    10770 V/H - Wide beam

    10825 V/H - West Europe Spot

    10915 V/H - West Europe Spot

    11200-11350 V/H - Wide beam

    11330 H - East Europe Spot

    11380 V/H - West Europe and Central Europe Spot (thx. Stanislav)

    11408 V/H - Central Europe Spot (thx. Stanislav)

    11440 V/H - North Europe Spot ?

    11540 V/H - West Europe Spot ?

    12670 V - East Europe Spot

    Location: Banska Bystrica, Slovakia
    Ku-Band: 50°West - 95°East Gibertini OP100 (1,0m)
    Ku-Band: 5°West - 39°East WaveFrontier T90 (0,9m)
    Ku-Band LNB: Avenger PLL321S-2 PLL
    Tuner: TBS 5925&5530&5220, EDISION MIO+ 4K, Mut@nt HD51, Dreambox 900UHD&7020HD

    Edited 2 times, last by EnoSat: thx. Stanislav (September 19, 2023 at 10:11 AM).

  • Was ich im unteren Bereich empfangen kann, vielleicht sind ein paar Spotbeams drin, ich habe null Ahnung, woher der 11045 H kommt.

    here's what I get in the low band, maybe a few spot-beams, I have no idea where the 11045 H comes from.

    Oberfranken
    1.80m Ch.Master Revolver 5 LNB

    IBU twin , Bulleye 10kHz, Kaonsat 13K, Inverto KaKuband,Kaband ( A)

    TBS6983; Openbox SX3 CI II ; Ustym 4K Pro ;GTMedia Combo; F15

  • Hier sind meine Scan Ergebnisse mit 125 cm am Standort.
    Radio Maria ist weit weit weg von einer Empfangschance und ob der Empfang bei ZAP Viva Internacional klappen würde?.
    Ein dB Wert ist da, aber alle anderen Parameter wie SR und FEC werden ja nicht eingelesen.

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