61.0°W Amazonas 6

  • Just starting a new toppic here.

    I can´t remember, seeing a signal in this range... according hvdh list, click GSO satellites, it could be Amazonas 2... :72:

    11213 V 64000

    Nothing to analyze and no other signal/peak in complete spectrum.

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • Amazonas 2 only has coverage over the Americas in Ku-band.
    Amazonas 3 has Europe beam, but only in 12.5...12.75 GHz range.

    The new Amazonas 6 (a.k.a. Nexus), which is operational since mid-July, is more likely.
    But we're still waiting the publish of Ku-band footprints. Satbeams site owner is also chasing it.
    Hispasat seems in no hurry to update their website, still showing Nexus as a future satellite.

    Location: Oss, NL, 5.5°E 51.8°N. Rx: Dr.HD F16, TBS 5927.
    Laminas 120cm 1°W...68°E, T-55 9/13/19/23/28/39/42/45°E.

  • qwer August 17, 2023 at 7:09 PM

    Changed the title of the thread from “61.0°W Amazonas 2” to “61.0°W Amazonas 6”.
  • Okay and thanks hvdh, I`ve changed toppic name into "Amazonas 6" at the moment...

    PS: There was a temporary peak at 11866 V... I do not know, if this range matches to any satellites at 61.0°W...? :25:

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • Weak and unlockable signal now on 11213 V 64000... about 0.5dB under LM

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • ...update: 11213 V lockable again on low signal... up to 1.2dB over LM

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • Here are my result on 1.8m

    11213 V

    11746 V


    Something on 12685 H;, maybe not DVB modulation type

    Feedsat's Setup

    - Wineguard Micromesh 3.10 m

    - Channel Master PFA 3.10 m

    - Laminas 1.80 m

    - 2 X Channel Master 1.80 m

    - Channel Master 2.40 m

    - KU, KU Ext.,Full KA, X, C & C Ext

    - TBS5925 -TBS6522 - TBS6983 - DTA2137CSXP

    - NS2000 - RX8200 - ADV-6000S

    - TM1 - TC1 - SR1 - MATRIX DEV1982

    - Promax TV II+

    - Dual Axis multi Antennas controller

    - EGIS - LNB Changer

    - Venture motorisations

    - 78.5°E (KU) <> 65°W (C)

    - Loc: France

  • Thanks to Feedsat! :73:

    Signal increased (+7dB!!!) now at 11.20 CET ...up to 6dB now...and still increases...

    PS: I can "see" 11745 V 64000 too, but too low to lock at this time...

    edit/: ...12.30 CET about 0.5dB under LM on 11745 V 64000 at my place on 2.2m

    /edit: 13.45 CET... signal de-creases again...only 0-1dB over LM on 11213 V....same situation as in early morning hours...

    ...oops, nice... a short moment later (14.00 CET)...again over 6dB on 11213 V. :26. ...still on the way to lock 11745 V...

    /edit: 15.00 CET... finally I locked 11745 V 64000 ....signal maxmum about 1dB over LM.... :167:

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • There was a temporary strong peak again here, today at 11851 V a short moment before... I know, not realy GS, but let`s wait and see... :26.

    PS: Only weak 1.3dB for 11213 V 64000 at scan time - signal changes extremely during daytime.

    /edit: ...and on again...

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • There are more, found and locked by duck77 on satellites.co.uk yesterday. :72:

    10817 H 64000

    11024 V 64000

    11070 H 64000

    ...but no sign of signal from my place.

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • Amazonas 6 ? Amazonas Nexus ? Amazonas Fleet

    Yes but there are so many beams, then it explain why we have no sign of the TXP reported by this DXer from his QTH

    at different places, different results, sure.

    my V low scan

    H low (empty)

    H Upper band

    V Upper band

    Feedsat's Setup

    - Wineguard Micromesh 3.10 m

    - Channel Master PFA 3.10 m

    - Laminas 1.80 m

    - 2 X Channel Master 1.80 m

    - Channel Master 2.40 m

    - KU, KU Ext.,Full KA, X, C & C Ext

    - TBS5925 -TBS6522 - TBS6983 - DTA2137CSXP

    - NS2000 - RX8200 - ADV-6000S

    - TM1 - TC1 - SR1 - MATRIX DEV1982

    - Promax TV II+

    - Dual Axis multi Antennas controller

    - EGIS - LNB Changer

    - Venture motorisations

    - 78.5°E (KU) <> 65°W (C)

    - Loc: France

  • Don't be confused, look for "Amazonas 6" and you'll find it's just another alternate name for Amazonas Nexus.
    Hispasat site only mentions Amazonas Nexus (for now).

    But there's a 3rd name coming for Intelsat payload!

    From Gunter's Space Page:

    "Intelsat has acquired in March 2023 a significant amount of capacity to meet demand for connectivity over the Americas. The company is leasing the satellite’s high-throughput Ku-band capacity from Spanish operator Hispasat for customers across the United States, Brazil, and North Atlantic Ocean. This capacity is called Intelsat 46."

    I hope the little table I posted above from FCC is correct also for Europe, that only 11.7...11.95 GHz is Wide beam, and all the rest Spot beams.

    Location: Oss, NL, 5.5°E 51.8°N. Rx: Dr.HD F16, TBS 5927.
    Laminas 120cm 1°W...68°E, T-55 9/13/19/23/28/39/42/45°E.

  • Hope from this position,

    New, I think

    11273 V 25000

    11804 V 25000

    Ku>DH 4,25M HH+OMT ADLx2 QPLL SMW-125Gib 28E+2Fracar 100 13/19E-2ChM 120 30W+5W
    C>2 OMT HV/LR+AVCOMM+4LNB NORSAT 3100F-BPF-4 (5G) on 4,25MT
    RotorFeed: C LR/HV+KU H/V
    TBS5925-6983+6908
    RC2000C

  • Hope from this position,

    New, I think

    11273 V 25000

    11804 V 25000

    Yes, from this position... but not my beam...one catchable here, too: 11273 V 25000

    /edit: locked 11804 V 25000 now in manual... :90:

    ...(fluctuating) signal increased up to 8.5dB on 11273 V

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • 2 signals in upper band H +//- 12199 & 12203


    Feedsat's Setup

    - Wineguard Micromesh 3.10 m

    - Channel Master PFA 3.10 m

    - Laminas 1.80 m

    - 2 X Channel Master 1.80 m

    - Channel Master 2.40 m

    - KU, KU Ext.,Full KA, X, C & C Ext

    - TBS5925 -TBS6522 - TBS6983 - DTA2137CSXP

    - NS2000 - RX8200 - ADV-6000S

    - TM1 - TC1 - SR1 - MATRIX DEV1982

    - Promax TV II+

    - Dual Axis multi Antennas controller

    - EGIS - LNB Changer

    - Venture motorisations

    - 78.5°E (KU) <> 65°W (C)

    - Loc: France

  • Only three for me today... no sign of signal on 11804 V - and even no constellation between 12199 H and 12203 H from my place.

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • Just todays signals from my place...one month later...11804 V 2500 is "visible" again, but too low signal for lock (0 to -2.9dB)...

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • Just another check here - about one month later... :148:

    11804 V 25000 not possible here...

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

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