Digital Devices Max M2

It is probably best to inquire directly at the source

• Phone: +49 (0)2065 - 6989930 (Mon-Thu 09:00 - 18:00, Fri 09:00-17:00)
• E-Mail: support@digital-devices.de

Beitrag im vdr-portal:
22. Mai 2024
#1
Diese Karte soll spätestens in einem halben Jahr verfügbar sein, hatte Kontakt mit Digital Device.
Preis ist noch keiner bekannt.

Ich weiß nur, dass die MAX SX8 pro den gleichen Chipsatz wie die TBS6903x hat, allerdings nicht mit CS, IQM kompatibel sein soll, zumindest so die Auskunft.
Die Vermutung liegt nahe, dass auch diese Karte nicht kompatibel zu den genannten Programmen sein wird.

Post in the vdr-portal:
May 22, 2024
#1
This card should be available in six months at the latest, we had contact with Digital Device.
No price is known yet.

All I know is that the MAX SX8 pro has the same chipset as the TBS6903x, but is not supposed to be compatible with CS, IQM, at least that's what the information says.
It is reasonable to assume that this card will not be compatible with the programs mentioned.

Nachtrag:
L4M-DVBViewer hat keine Auswahl der Tunerkarte
Addendum:
L4M-DVBViewer does not have a tuner card selection

Quote from SaTom

Dear all!

This morning surfing in the internet, and What do I see, now avaiable the Digital Devices Max M2 :-) This is Super!

https://www.digital-devices.eu/shop/en/Digita…ner-Card/820022

I would buy it, but question, has anyone using this tool ?
If yes, please share usage experiences!

Best regards,
SaTom

Super, indeed, as you say, but it's for those who want access to the three standards. From that point of view, it may be the best card on the market.

Unfortunately, these cards from Digital Device cannot be used with crazycat's applications. I admit that looks good, physically speaking.

Of course, I didn't buy it to verify what I said before. Still, if it offers the same support as the Max SX8 and doesn't offer signal access to CrazyCat's applications, then as a hobbyist, I'm not interested, even though it was designed and built for this purpose, to watch/listen to TV/Radio programs. That's not to say I wouldn't be interested in a review of this card.

I hope I'm not wrong, but most people on this forum seek signals, not TV programs(?). Although not intended, crazycat, together with the TBS cards, has created a category, it is true, smaller, of such enthusiasts.

I would very much like to be wrong about what will happen next with applications that this card supports.

Quote from satesco

Of course, I didn't buy it to verify what I said before. Still, if it offers the same support as the Max SX8 and doesn't offer signal access to CrazyCat's applications, then as a hobbyist, I'm not interested,

You don't need to test, that's 100% the case. Nice maps perhaps in themselves, but incompatible with the software used here, like all other maps of this type unusable.

Hi, SaTom,

Since neither you nor I has tested this card, it is risky to comment on its qualities or the tuner's sensitivity to weak signals.
First, we don't know which demodulator it is equipped with or which tuner model it uses.

I initially thought that this Max M2 is Digital Device's version of what TBS's 6903x card is, like the Max SX8 versus the 6909x, but we don't know if the former would implement the sid135(?) chip, like the SX8 has. But I'm unsure about this, since I don't know or haven't found a chip135 that knows the three standards, S/C/T(?). If the M2 has such a chip, then my assumption that this is the 6903x variant, minus C/T, is correct.

In that case, Digital Device's offering for the amateur can be considered, and yes, it is an alternative to TBS cards with this chip, both for amateurs and professionals. But, for the latter, it remains a big "but" as long as it doesn't support tools/applications capable of making the difference from TBS cards. This aspect is most important for those exploring positions/satellites to find signal, even unlocked, and transponders, with programs or without. For these hobbyists, it is the most relevant aspect of the DVB cards on the market.

I don't know what information about receptions the DDL4M tool you're talking about offers, which is important when we find a new transponder. But if they don't search for it and see it, then we are left with the bitter taste of a futile search. That's the primary purpose of signal searchers: finding hard-to-find and locked frequencies. All other searches are secondary.

For enthusiasts, Crazyscan and related applications from any card manufacturer are the only alternatives at the moment. That's why I've expressed myself not once that the best DVB cards for enthusiasts are 6983/6903 for DVB-S2 mode and 6903X/6909x for S2X extension, for one of the most important reasons: they can be used with Crazyscan(and neumoDVB under Linux).

If what has been said about them (Max cards) being designed differently from TBS's is true, it would be interesting to see how they can be used practically in Cat's applications, which provide all the relevant information when finding a transponder. Unfortunately, this is a vital thing these Max cards don't know.

Again, the comparison with the GoldMaster SR525 is a bit exaggerated because this device doesn't know how to read symbol rates under 1000 or those over 45000 Mbps. I admit it is a good receiver, but it is more for a regular consumer. Its value has increased after you implemented the R.A.M.F SNR function for those who want to tune the antenna well.

Of course, my opinion does not have to be shared by all enthusiasts, especially as I know that arguments are not enough. Nor have I set out to be academic. I spoke more from a practical point of view regarding the DVB applications we have today. We use them to find parameters that are impossible to see with other tools.

Let it not be understood that I'm against Device Digital cards. On the contrary, I'm glad they exist. If what has been said about them being designed differently from TBS's is true, it would be interesting to see how they can be used practically by an enthusiast looking for new signals and frequencies.

Best regards

Alle TBS PCIe Multistandard Karten nutzen den Si2183 Chip.
Man kann davon ausgehen, dass es sich bei der MAX M2 nicht um einen STDID 135 Demodulator-Chip handelt.
Digitaldevice gibt nur diese Software
Microsoft Windows Media Center 7/8, DVBViewer, Media Portal, Gen2VDR, MythTV
für die Nutzung der karten an.

Unabhängig vom Kartentyp wäre es für mich eine völlig sinnlose Investition, wenn dann keine Software zum Scannen funktioniert.

All TBS PCIe multistandard cards use the Si2183 chip.
It's safe to assume that the MAX M2 isn't a STDID 135 demodulator chip.
Digitaldevice only specifies this software:
Microsoft Windows Media Center 7/8, DVBViewer, Media Portal, Gen2VDR, MythTV
for using the cards.

Regardless of the card type, it would be a completely pointless investment for me if no scanning software works.

Minden TBS PCIe multistandard kártya Si2183 chipet használ.
Feltételezhető, hogy a MAX M2 nem egy STDID 135 demodulátor chip.
A Digitaldevice csak ezt a szoftvert biztosítja
Microsoft Windows Media Center 7/8, DVBViewer, Media Portal, Gen2VDR, MythTV
a kártyák használatáért.

Kártyatípustól függetlenül számomra teljesen értelmetlen befektetés lenne, ha nem működik semmilyen szkennelő szoftver.