• Finally a break-through!

    A few characters are missing, but that is easy to fix.

    Learning how to handle the Level 1.5 extension was a nightmare.

    Next is Level 2.5...

    Then I can check off Teletext from the TODO list!

  • DVB-NIP mABR from Eutelsat 117 West

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    Location: Banska Bystrica, Slovakia
    Ku-Band: 50°West - 95°East Gibertini OP100 (1,0m)
    Ku-Band: 5°West - 39°East WaveFrontier T90 (0,9m)
    Ku-Band LNB: Avenger PLL321S-2 PLL
    Tuner: TBS 5927&5925&5220, EDISION MIO+ 4K, Mut@nt HD51, Dreambox ONE&900UHD

  • Guten Morgen

    auf 5° west 12563 V 35300 PLS 131070 gibt es einen MIS , mit fünf streams 1;3;5;11 und 12 ; bei dem numero 12 ist irgendwas als DAB Naz eingegeben .Ob davon VMA stream Reader was finden kann ??? ich habe ein bisschen probiert mit DATA usw... aber nichts . Bei Euch alle gibt es bestimmt jemand der vielleicht was finden kann

    At 5° west 12563 V 35300 PLS 131070 there is a MIS with five streams 1;3;5;11 and 12; for number 12, something is entered as DAB Naz.Can VMA stream reader find anything? I've tried a bit with DATA etc., but nothing. I'm sure there's someone among you who might be able to find something.

    Oberfranken
    1.80m Ch.Master Revolver 5 LNB

    IBU twin , Bulleye 10kHz, Kaonsat 13K, Inverto KaKuband,Kaband ( A)

    TBS6983; Openbox SX3 CI II ; Ustym 4K Pro ;SR-200HD extrem ; D15

  • You can always dump the packets as a pcap file (Mirror as PCap) an open it in Wireshark.

    Likewise, you can dump the raw/plain packets and then open the respective file in your hex editor. Also, try to open in VLC and Potplayer, to see what happens.

  • And now we have a DVB-NIP transponder at 13.0E, on 12226 V, 27500, 3/4, which can fuel your desire to work and be inventive.

    I have also tested this mux with your app:

    Great! :73:
    My firs try on this one.

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • Trying "Hbb TV" and "Teletext" on 12188 H, RTL Group TP, on 19.20°E Astra 1P. It works fine! :76:

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • At 5° west 12563 V 35300 PLS 131070 there is a MIS with five streams 1;3;5;11 and 12; for number 12, something is entered as DAB Naz.Can VMA stream reader find anything? I've tried a bit with DATA etc., but nothing. I'm sure there's someone among you who might be able to find something.

    satesco
    July 5, 2023 at 5:08 PM

    Location: Banska Bystrica, Slovakia
    Ku-Band: 50°West - 95°East Gibertini OP100 (1,0m)
    Ku-Band: 5°West - 39°East WaveFrontier T90 (0,9m)
    Ku-Band LNB: Avenger PLL321S-2 PLL
    Tuner: TBS 5927&5925&5220, EDISION MIO+ 4K, Mut@nt HD51, Dreambox ONE&900UHD

  • Vielen Dank an Ciro70, der mir diese Information für den DAB-Stream auf 5° West gegeben hat.

    Thanks to Ciro70 for giving me this information for the DAB stream on 5° west.


    At the moment both streams 11 and 12 carries the national relay for RAI DAB, each stream on PID 1000.
    The stream is in ETI format and can be listened to with some linux tools (Eti-Tools).

    Oberfranken
    1.80m Ch.Master Revolver 5 LNB

    IBU twin , Bulleye 10kHz, Kaonsat 13K, Inverto KaKuband,Kaband ( A)

    TBS6983; Openbox SX3 CI II ; Ustym 4K Pro ;SR-200HD extrem ; D15

  • With the VMA DVB-NIP app on 12441 V, you can do a lot with a single player. The app supports ts files, but is it possible to play them?
    The app attempts to do this, but the large volume of files cannot be processed instantly by the player.

    FYI: Just same situation here too...


    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • This is the wrong thread. Anyway I think one issue is the high bitrate, causing too many drops.

  • Sorry VMA and thanks for your reply.

    FYI: I´ve copied #924, #936 and yours above in this toppic now (from skyscraper8 toppic). :74:

    qwer setup

    Location: Rastatt, Germany

    C-band: 53.0°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)

    X-band: 52.5°W-63.0°E ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m off focus)

    Ku-band: 61.0°West-80.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)

    Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)

    Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E standby

    Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031, Inverto Single Flange

    C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL, SOLID WIDE BAND EXTENDED C_BAND LNBF

    Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55

    X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF

    Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K

    Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM

    Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

    >qwer setup

  • PID 4096 is encoded with BISS
    PID 4097 FTA

    Location: Banska Bystrica, Slovakia
    Ku-Band: 50°West - 95°East Gibertini OP100 (1,0m)
    Ku-Band: 5°West - 39°East WaveFrontier T90 (0,9m)
    Ku-Band LNB: Avenger PLL321S-2 PLL
    Tuner: TBS 5927&5925&5220, EDISION MIO+ 4K, Mut@nt HD51, Dreambox ONE&900UHD

    Edited once, last by EnoSat (September 15, 2025 at 1:20 PM).

  • Guten Morgen

    Ich habe bestimmt irgendwo einen Fehler gemacht .

    Ich nutze fast ausschließlich LinearBlindscan um Transponder zu finden , und es funktioniert wirklich hervorragend , besser und schneller als alle andere Tool die ich bis jetzt probiert habe.

    Heute habe ich mit Dxscan probiert ( sollte noch besser sein ) , das Ergebnis ist sehr ernüchternd , es dauert viel viel länger ( das wusste ich ) und es wurde nur 9 Transponder statt 14 gefunden.

    Das ist normalerweise nicht was man von DXscan erwartet.

    Wo habe ich ein Fehler gemacht ?

    Oder wurde DXscan am Anfang vom "VMA stream Reader" angebracht als noch Begrenzung mit dem Programm gab

    und jetzt spielt das keine große Rolle mehr?

    braucht man nocht diese " DXscan " ?

    Oberfranken
    1.80m Ch.Master Revolver 5 LNB

    IBU twin , Bulleye 10kHz, Kaonsat 13K, Inverto KaKuband,Kaband ( A)

    TBS6983; Openbox SX3 CI II ; Ustym 4K Pro ;SR-200HD extrem ; D15

  • AutoScan kann man auf zwei Arten machen:

    Linear Scan oder Pattern Recognition: wenn Linear Scan nicht gecheckt ist, wird der Pattern Recognition benutzt. Dieser ist viel schneller, findet aber nicht alle Transponder, besonders bei "komplizierten" Konstellationen wie nahe liegenden Transpondern, usw.

    Die DX Option schaltet das automatische überspringen des Frequenzraums AB, das der Bandbreite des gerade gefundenen Transponders entspricht. Also: auf Frequenz 11000 einen Transponder mit 20MHz Bandbreite gefunden, spring man automatisch auf 11010MHz.

    Ohne die Optionen ist der Scan schneller, es können aber ganz nahe Transponder mit kleiner Bandbreite eventuell nicht erkannt werden.

    Zu den Optionen des Pattern Recognition Modus:

    Relax Average Level: statt vom User eine Mindest-Amplitude zu nehmen, wird gemittelt. Weil der Durchschnitt zu hoch sein kann, gibt man hier z.B. -10dB ein, um auch Transponder, die eine Amplitude unter dem Durchschnitt haben zu erwischen.

    Smooth Window: hier wird die Spektrum-Kurve gefiltert um die vielen kleinen Peaks zu entfernen. Das erleichtert das Erkennen eines Transponder-Pegels.

    Threshold (das ist dein Hauptproblem): darf nicht 0 sein! Es geht hier um den Unterschied zwischen der Frequenz und den beiden Nachbar-Frequenzen. So wird ein potentieller Transponder ermittelt. Mindestens 5dB sollten es schon sein.

    Cluster Span: wieviele benachbarte Samples sollen zusammengefasst werden. 1-3 ist normalerweise ein guter Wert.


    Da ihr aber kaum was mit dem Pattern Recognition zu tun haben wollt, solltet ihr den Linear Scan benutzen. Und stephan94 will hier den DX Modus aktiviert haben.

  • New version: https://vma-broadcast.com/wp-content/upl…02025-09-16.zip

    I finished the TELETEXT implementation. Level 1.0 and Level 1.5 are supported and can be selected.

    I had some tough days figuring out some rendering bugs and the last 3 days were spent figuring out why the fast text buttons did not receive the correct page numbers.

    For your entertainment:

    This is from the Teletext standard.

    Notice BITs M1, M2 and M3. The form the relative MAGAZINE value.

    They are contained in Byte 6N+10 and 6N+12.

    But the stupid picture is lacking the "12", so I had 11 in my code and did not notice. This caused the wrong bits to be used, wrong relative magazine to be calculated and XORed against the page magazine. As a result it was wrong in a weird way.

    3-4 sleepless nights because of this. And a headache.

    I will rest now.

    I looked at BLScan2() for TBS-6903X but it is not a simple replacement, as it uses a range and gives a different result. Not sure about it, have to test if it is really faster.

    Other than that, it would be nice to revisit DVB-NIP and improve it. But first I need rest and make peace with my family, who are complaining about my absence and lack of time.

  • More info:

    My Teletext decoder now supports Fast Text, Level 1.0/1.5 selection, dumping current page in RAW mode, dumping ALL pages and loading back pages or complete dumps. This is a unique feature that helps document and archive complete teletext services.

    i couldn't resist to update & perfect the Teletext RAW View (available in next version):

    • Orange = Opcodes
    • Red = Graphics
    • Green = Text
    • Blue = Glyph replacement
    • Yellow = Enhancement/Control characters

    I think this is unique in the market. I don't know any other Transport Stream Analyser that can show the underlying raw code.

    Dektec StreamXpert can show the Attributes, but in my opinion that is not as useful:

    However, StreamXpert still rules in Level support - it supports Level 1.0, 1.5, 2.5 and 3.5.

    No operator uses Level 3.5, only a few support Level 2.5 on page 100 for their logo:

    Level 1.5:

    Level 2.5:

    I am not sure if I am going through the stress of implementing Level 2.5, because there really are only a handful operators using it only on page 100.

    VLC's Teletext implementation has fallen behind:

    • No select-able Level (always shows Level 1.5)
    • No flashing support

    With this I conclude the Teletext developments...

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