16.0°E Eutelsat 16A

  • Zitat

    Original von flie


    11016H SR changed to 2083 .... No locked :83:


    locked to night !!! :88:

  • I don't know how ,But locked for the first time to night :80:

    11024,H,3333 DVB-S QPSK 5/6

    PAR VS BAY 0-1 :26.

  • New

    12590,V,146,34,QPSK

    Radio Gdansk_1 Poljski

    Stream Type: 0x11 MPEG-4 AAC Audio

    Elementary Stream PID 101 (0x0065)


    12577,H,405,35,NBC_QPSK

    Radio Program 25599

    Stream Type: 0x03 MPEG-1 Audio

    Elementary Stream PID 111 (0x006f)

    Stream Type: 0x80 User Private

    Elementary Stream PID 112 (0x0070)

    TBS6983,Triax TD110,Motor Amiko H-H 180,Inverto Black Ultra Twin,70.5°E-40.5°W
    Borovo Naselje Croatia

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    I found it almost impossible to get a lock on Radio Gdansk and the others using 405ks/s were very hard with CS. These captures were using a software demodulator from the Amsat-DL forum. It's not the easiest thing to use but has interesting possibilities: https://forum.amsat-dl.org/ind…ftware-dvb-s-demodulator/

  • 11071.127 H,176,3/4-BNR_AMS(new symbol rate)

    11070.653 H,176,3/4-BNR_AMS(moved here)

    Update transponders with Dutch radio programs with low symbol rates:

    11069.116 H,355,2/3-Radio 10 TNZ,Radio 538 TNZ,

    11069.555 H,375,3/5,S2-Sky Radio TNS,Veronica TNZ,

    11071.086 H,548,1/2-100% NL Main,,Slam! Main,

    In upper band new transponders with radio programs with low symbol rates,listed on FS.

    12577.205 H,405,3/5,S2-radio,

    12577.705 H,405,3/5,S2-radio,

    12578.206 H,405,3/5,S2-QNL_AMS(new)

    I did not find 12590 V,146,3/4-Radio Gdansk :25: :3:

  • Active frequency again Radio Gdansk--Program 104 RG_1, 12589.872,V,34,DVB-S/QPSK

    TBS6983,Triax TD110,Motor Amiko H-H 180,Inverto Black Ultra Twin,70.5°E-40.5°W
    Borovo Naselje Croatia

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    Scan von heute in untere band

    in bereich Niedrige SR

    anscheinend hat es sich nicht geändert


    Scan from today in lower band

    in the area of low SR

    apparently it hasn't changed


  • Not the signal that I expect ...may be one day :89:

    16°EKu-band_Africa


    10845,H,30000,35,2 ;5.9 (0.4) dB; 20:45 6/11/2021

    10886,H,30000,35,2 ;5.9 (0.4) dB; 20:45 6/11/2021

    11016,H,1499,23,2 ;5.6 (-1.02) dB; 20:45 6/11/2021

    11022,H,3332,56,1 ;6.4 (-0.13) dB; 20:45 6/11/2021

  • This one locked at the limit !

    10928,H,30000,35,2 ;5.5 (0) dB; 20:45 6/11/2021

  • Another test for low symbol rate reception on the upper band at 16.0E with IQmonitor and Crazyscan.

    I must add that I manually locked these transponders with both applications.

    On this occasion, I managed to lock the low symbol rate on 12689 V,146,3/4, Radio Gdansk, which I had not managed before. Although the signal is stronger on this one, over 18dB, locking it is more difficult with Crazyscan. The Head codec (I have not heard so far) is used for Gdansk Radio.

    Probably the local oscillator of the lnb dro IBU is affected by the high temperature outside.

    Not sure if there are 4 trps active at 12577 H,405,3/4, or only three. IQmonitor found four(?!)


    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

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    Hallo ,

    nach dem erfolgreichen Ergebnis von satesco habe ich selbe rin diesem Bereich probiert.

    Ich wollte alles automatisch suchen lassen ( mit df 10)

    IQMonitor Pro hat nur drei sr405 gefunden , von dem vierten keine Spur , vielleicht am Abend

    ist es abgeschaltet ? ich weiss es nicht.


    After the successful result of satesco, I tried the same in this area.

    I wanted to search everything automatically (with df 10).

    IQMonitor Pro only found three sr405, no trace of the fourth,

    maybe in the evening it is switched off? I don't know.


    После успешного результата сатеско, я попробовал сделать то же самое в этой области.

    Я хотел искать все автоматически (с помощью df 10).

    IQMonitor Pro обнаружил только три sr405, следов четвертого нет,

    может вечером он отключается? Я не знаю.

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    On this occasion, I managed to lock the low symbol rate on 12689 V,146,3/4, Radio Gdansk, which I had not managed before.

    I can lock 12689.2 V 146 via CS blindscan and TBS 6903, but I´ve tried to lock it yesterday evening in manual - no way yet...



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    nach mehrere Versuche, hat IQmonitor pro

    mit dem Automatischen Blindscan ( DF9) geschafft ,

    die Frequenz 12588,75 sr 146 zu finden und zu locken


    After several attempts, IQmonitor pro

    with the automatic blindscan ( DF9) managed to find

    and attract the frequency 12588,75 sr 146.


    После нескольких попыток, IQmonitor pro

    с автоматическим слепым сканированием (DF9) удалось найти

    и привлечь частоту 12588,75 sr 146.


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    Finally I managed to lock 12689 V 146 CS in "manual" and TBS 6903 - it´s seems difficult for my setup.


    The other three ones in horizontal - only via manual scan with CS - but without lock-problems.


  • Surprisingly, the 6903x card worked best with a low symbol rate (405 Ks) at 16.0E with the neumoDVB app on Ubuntu.

    Then, again a reward for me, Crazyscan locked those trps with 405 Ks which I had failed on other occasions.

    And about IQmonitor I can say that it works very hard and is unreliable when auto searching/blindscan. The best you can do is manually lock 12577 H/12578 directly without any search.

    I don't know which of the IQmonitor versions can work well with the 6903X card.

    The above comments are not intended to diminish the merits of one application over another, especially regarding 6903x. But I must add that Deeptho, the developer of neumoDVB, has put a lot of time and thought into making this card perform better on Linux than it does under Windows.


    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

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    satesco

    I kindly ask you to do the following experiment for me, which I cannot do myself due to the lack of TBS 6903X:

    For all three programs, install

    16°E polarization H

    Fstart = 12575

    Fstop = 12580

    with the same spectrum size with the axes of frequencies and signal strengths visible in the screenshot (the same as for IQmonitor Pro);

    For IQmonitor Pro, register the RF spectrum in 1MHz steps, and then run the HR spectrum with the Add checkbox checked.

    Please do not skip frequencies while running the program.

    I ask you to make a screenshot with the left button so that both the spectrum and the main program window with search parameters can be seen on it. Save the spectrum and transponder table and attach it to the report.


    For Crazyscan in the same format and spectrum size as IQmonitor Pro, acquire the RF spectrum at maximum resolution (minimum frequency step) and then execute BlindScan. Take a screenshot of the entire program window so that you can see the frequency step. Do not crop from it when posting.


    With the neumoDVB app on Ubuntu in the same format and spectrum size as IQmonitor Pro, acquire the RF spectrum at maximum resolution (minimum frequency step) and then execute BlindScan. Take a screenshot of the entire program window so that you can see the frequency step.

    Do not crop from it when posting.

    Approximately in this form:

    82436-16-0e-spectrum-low-sr-2022-08-15-16-35-png


    Thank you in advance :70:

  • -I hope I didn't miss something important in the tests required.

    BS IQmonitor with 6903x card between 12575-12580 H took almost three hours with 1MHz step. Only one trps found and locked it,12576,5 H. The result is seen in the screenshot. Strange is that although the feed didn't show any parameters, I had a stream with TSReader.

    (I would like to know if there is an IQmonitor version that scans faster?)

    -Because CS does not support scanning less than 10 steps, I had to extend the bandwidth by a few units.
    At 0.1MHz step and high resolution, Crazyscan couldn't find these close transponders with low symbol rate. Only manual search could lock them.

    -In the case of neumoDVB you can't set the steps in blindscan. I asked the developer to tell me how to choose, but he didn't say anything. He said that they are implemented in the search algorithm, which he set so that scanning with 6903x is faster.

    And indeed scanning with this card takes less time; it's much faster than any such application under Windows.

    In fact, these low sr muxes do not appear on the spectrum, which is why they can't be found in blindscan. Only manual search can find and lock them.


    7 antennas,including 2 of 150cm,one T90 with 16 lnbs
    lnb:Inverto Black Ultra with scalar rings and many Ku lnbs,
    C-band LNB:ESX241,Galaxy Inovations,EuroStar,MTI 20K,NS741U C/Ku,Inverto Single C-band Flange,lnb Chaparral Servo Motor & Skew Control
    LNB Ka:R9216DF XWM,Hughes FSS 19.7-20.2 GHz,
    6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,
    7 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6504),3 tuners usb-tbs5927,tbs5925 & SkyStar USB 2 HD,
    Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W,
    Loc:Romania :3:

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    satesco

    Thank you very much for your hard work. :59:

    First, I will answer your question about scanning speed - there is no such version of IQmonitor Pro that would work faster.

    And now I'm sure it won't. The fact is that the bundle of the TBS-6903X driver and the StreamReader of the respected Crazycat are not "friends" with each other, since the latter does not have complete documentation on the driver and card registers.

    The Linux driver seems to have the same problem.

    At least the spectrum you got has nothing to do with the scan results shown at the bottom of the screenshot.

    And here, apparently, everything rests on the lack of complete documentation for TBS-6903X.


    In order not to give the impression that your work is in vain, :28:

    I want to share with you an important result of the analysis of RF spectra from your excellent video.

    The receiving setup on which the spectra were obtained has a very low cross-polarization isolation (only ~10dB instead of the usual ~24dB).

    The news, which would seem not the most joyful, but inspiring optimism, is that with the correct setting of the LNB rotation angle and compensation for cross-polarization interference, the sensitivity of the installation will increase, and the SNR for some transponders will increase by 2dB.

    You can make this fine tuning using the dynamical (real time) spectrum in the IQmonitor Pro program.


    Health and success :74:

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    heute findet die automatische Suche in diesem Bereich nur noch 12569 H.

    Andererseits werden viele Frequenzen im manuellen Modus mit mehr als 80% gefunden.


    today the automatic search finds only 12569 H in this area.

    on the other hand many frequencies are found in manual mode with more than 80%


    сегодня автоматический поиск находит только 12569 H в этой области.

    с другой стороны, многие частоты находятся в ручном режиме с более чем 80%


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