interesting, with my 2.4m and circular lnb also 6 degrees off, I'm far from locking this TP today

do you know how much dB difference do you have if you compare having the LNB in focus vs. 6 degrees off? I wonder if my loss is due to the LNB position or some trees that might be in the way

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Location: 50N, 14.6E (near Prague)
C-Band 37.5W-55W: Channel Master 2.4m PF, AVCOMM OMT & Ring + 2x Astrotel 15K, circ.: AVCOMM polarizer + ESX242 (6° off)
C-Band 34.5W: IRTE 1.8m prime focus, ESX241
Scans done with TBS 6903

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Original von drhans interesting, with my 2.4m and circular lnb also 6 degrees off, I'm far from locking this TP today do you know how much dB difference do you have if you compare having the LNB in focus vs. 6 degrees off? I wonder if my loss is due to the LNB position or some trees that might be in the way

I think your problem should be the trees because I have also the cband lnb at 6° off the focus on the laminas 1.8m with same snr.

The difference between focus and not in the focus is about 1 / 1.5 db on a 1.8m

PS: check your private messages

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- Wineguard Micromesh 3.10 m
- Channel Master PFA 3.10 m
- Laminas 1.80 m
- 2 X Channel Master 1.80 m
- Channel Master 2.40 m
- KU, Full KA, X, C & C Extended LNBs
- TBS5925 -TBS6522 - TBS6983 - DTA2137C
- NS2000 - TM1 - TC1 - SR1
- ADV-6000S - MATRIX DEV1982
- Promax TV II+ - SMR1224EL
- ASC1 - RC2000C - EGIS - LNB Changer
- 76.5°E <> 65°W
- Loc: France

full scan attached...

According to satbeams.com, half of France is getting stronger signal from 40W, are you by any chance located in the south? That would help explaining some of the signal difference. Las time I tried with the circular LNBF in focus, I was getting much stronger signal (up to 3dB better) so I think I still have to experiment with the off-focus LNBF placement. Now I've just cut the scalar ring to fit the LNBs closer together and I'm using AVCOMM polarizer but still far from "just" 1-1.5dB difference.

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Location: 50N, 14.6E (near Prague)
C-Band 37.5W-55W: Channel Master 2.4m PF, AVCOMM OMT & Ring + 2x Astrotel 15K, circ.: AVCOMM polarizer + ESX242 (6° off)
C-Band 34.5W: IRTE 1.8m prime focus, ESX241
Scans done with TBS 6903

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Original von drhans full scan attached... According to satbeams.com, half of France is getting stronger signal from 40W, are you by any chance located in the south? That would help explaining some of the signal difference. .

Yes, I'm in the circle 41dB
PS: even if 1.30m recommended dish size is TOO small.

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- Wineguard Micromesh 3.10 m
- Channel Master PFA 3.10 m
- Laminas 1.80 m
- 2 X Channel Master 1.80 m
- Channel Master 2.40 m
- KU, Full KA, X, C & C Extended LNBs
- TBS5925 -TBS6522 - TBS6983 - DTA2137C
- NS2000 - TM1 - TC1 - SR1
- ADV-6000S - MATRIX DEV1982
- Promax TV II+ - SMR1224EL
- ASC1 - RC2000C - EGIS - LNB Changer
- 76.5°E <> 65°W
- Loc: France

could someone please check Fox transponders 3723L and 3803R? Last 2 days the signal is down by 2-3dB compared to last week... other TPs are about the same for me...

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Location: 50N, 14.6E (near Prague)
C-Band 37.5W-55W: Channel Master 2.4m PF, AVCOMM OMT & Ring + 2x Astrotel 15K, circ.: AVCOMM polarizer + ESX242 (6° off)
C-Band 34.5W: IRTE 1.8m prime focus, ESX241
Scans done with TBS 6903

New I think:
3763 Left 30000 8/9 DVB-S2 8PSK

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Famaval 3100 - DMX 13K (C)
Laminas 2700 - Inverto Black Ultra (KU)
Openbox X-810 ,Openbox SX6, TBS 6983

Dieser Beitrag wurde schon 1 mal editiert, zum letzten mal von pawelwa am 28 Aug, 2016 16:43 29.

Fox signal seems back to normal and FX HD added to 3803R mux (channel ID FOX Peru HD)

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Location: 50N, 14.6E (near Prague)
C-Band 37.5W-55W: Channel Master 2.4m PF, AVCOMM OMT & Ring + 2x Astrotel 15K, circ.: AVCOMM polarizer + ESX242 (6° off)
C-Band 34.5W: IRTE 1.8m prime focus, ESX241
Scans done with TBS 6903

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Original von pawelwa New I think: 3763 Left 30000 8/9 DVB-S2 8PSK

ESPN mux, FEC changed to 5/6. All channels DCII encrypted.

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Location: 50N, 14.6E (near Prague)
C-Band 37.5W-55W: Channel Master 2.4m PF, AVCOMM OMT & Ring + 2x Astrotel 15K, circ.: AVCOMM polarizer + ESX242 (6° off)
C-Band 34.5W: IRTE 1.8m prime focus, ESX241
Scans done with TBS 6903

Dieser Beitrag wurde schon 1 mal editiert, zum letzten mal von drhans am 01 Sep, 2016 10:06 45.

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Original von drhans ESPN mux, FEC changed to 5/6. All channels DCII encrypted.

Thanks for the info.

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Famaval 3100 - DMX 13K (C)
Laminas 2700 - Inverto Black Ultra (KU)
Openbox X-810 ,Openbox SX6, TBS 6983

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Original von drhans Fox signal seems back to normal and FX HD added to 3803R mux (channel ID FOX Peru HD)

All encrypted now on:

3803 R 30000 5/6 DVB-S2 8PSK

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Location: Rastatt, Germany
C-band: 55.5°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)
X-band: 17.8°W-60.2°E KATHREIN CAS 120 (1,2m)
Ku-band: 61.0°West -83.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)
Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)
Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E
Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031
C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL
Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55
X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF
Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K
Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM
Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

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Original von pawelwa New I think: 3763 Left 30000 8/9 DVB-S2 8PSK

Thanks pawelwa. Changing FEC now:

3763 L 30000 5/6 DVB-S2 8PSK

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Location: Rastatt, Germany
C-band: 55.5°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)
X-band: 17.8°W-60.2°E KATHREIN CAS 120 (1,2m)
Ku-band: 61.0°West -83.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)
Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)
Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E
Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031
C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL
Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55
X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF
Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K
Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM
Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

My bad scan today, maybe I have a problem...

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Location: Rastatt, Germany
C-band: 55.5°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)
X-band: 17.8°W-60.2°E KATHREIN CAS 120 (1,2m)
Ku-band: 61.0°West -83.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)
Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)
Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E
Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031
C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL
Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55
X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF
Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K
Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM
Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

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Original von qwer My bad scan today, maybe I have a problem...

This is a scan done with a Zinwell LNB in focus (2.4m dish). I haven't had time to fine tune the LNB position. But even like this it is obvious that something is wrong with your signal path...

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Location: 50N, 14.6E (near Prague)
C-Band 37.5W-55W: Channel Master 2.4m PF, AVCOMM OMT & Ring + 2x Astrotel 15K, circ.: AVCOMM polarizer + ESX242 (6° off)
C-Band 34.5W: IRTE 1.8m prime focus, ESX241
Scans done with TBS 6903

Thanks drhans for your feedback!

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Location: Rastatt, Germany
C-band: 55.5°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)
X-band: 17.8°W-60.2°E KATHREIN CAS 120 (1,2m)
Ku-band: 61.0°West -83.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)
Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)
Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E
Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031
C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL
Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55
X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF
Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K
Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM
Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

TV Brasil HD changed FEC to 3/5, now lockable on my 2.4m dish with the LNB 6 degrees off focus
... or maybe the FEC was never 3/4 despite reports on other sites
see image for TP details

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Location: 50N, 14.6E (near Prague)
C-Band 37.5W-55W: Channel Master 2.4m PF, AVCOMM OMT & Ring + 2x Astrotel 15K, circ.: AVCOMM polarizer + ESX242 (6° off)
C-Band 34.5W: IRTE 1.8m prime focus, ESX241
Scans done with TBS 6903

Promar TV now in H265 and with reduced SR

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Location: 50N, 14.6E (near Prague)
C-Band 37.5W-55W: Channel Master 2.4m PF, AVCOMM OMT & Ring + 2x Astrotel 15K, circ.: AVCOMM polarizer + ESX242 (6° off)
C-Band 34.5W: IRTE 1.8m prime focus, ESX241
Scans done with TBS 6903

what's up with 3740-3780L? There's clearly something but too weak for me to lock... is it still that digicipher mux which used to be at 3763L? The spectrum shape looks different but maybe that's because I replaced the LNBF?

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Location: 50N, 14.6E (near Prague)
C-Band 37.5W-55W: Channel Master 2.4m PF, AVCOMM OMT & Ring + 2x Astrotel 15K, circ.: AVCOMM polarizer + ESX242 (6° off)
C-Band 34.5W: IRTE 1.8m prime focus, ESX241
Scans done with TBS 6903

Hi drhans,

sorry for my late reply here. :90:

I see, that nothing has changed here on 3764 L. All encrypted without IDs.

PS: I probably have no clear view on this satellite, according my signal.

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Location: Rastatt, Germany
C-band: 55.5°West-68.5°East ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)
X-band: 17.8°W-60.2°E KATHREIN CAS 120 (1,2m)
Ku-band: 61.0°West -83.0°East KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,2m)
Ka-band A/B/C/D: 30.0°W-75.0°E KATHREIN CAS 018 (1,8m)
Ka-band band A 2x KATHREIN CAS 120 fix on 19.2°E and 42.0°E
Ku-band LNB: Invacom SNF-031
C-band LNBs: Kaonsat, C-Panorama 13K, Norsat 8000RI C-DRO, BrasilSat LNBF AP30 PLL
Ka-Band LNBs: Inverto Twin WHITE Ka Circular Dual Polarity LNB (flange), Inverto IDLK-SINL20-KAKU-OPP,MCL-KP04, Norsat 9000HX-O3B-BN, Orbital LNB1825F-1000D-WF55
X-band LNB: Norsat X1000HAF
Feeds: Invacom ADF_10 + 2 rings, XMW Ka-band Feed FD9000K
Waveguide Polariser: AV-COMM
Tuner: TBS 6925, TBS 6903, TBS 6903X, TBS 6522

Along with a few other satellite projects that are currently in progress, we still keep testing all TBS cards as we go along.
One may say, it`s not a big deal to do such tests. Well, good and relevant tests take lots of time, patiente and effort. But as you can see, it pays off!

TBS 6522 - sensitivity tests.

If TBS 6983/6903 are great, TBS 6522 sets a new limit!
Those tests have been done several times, the player was completely closed down and open when a device was switched. DVB Dream was used for Prof 7301 because the latest version of Smart DVB causes Prof to crash. But on the end of the day it doesn`t change anything on the fact that there`s only one card that could fully and freeze free provide picture and sound on this station/transponder.

Pictures say it all.

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Be independent and your TV screen will never be the same.

What do you mean by "sensitivity"? Does 6522 work better with lower SNR than the other tuners?

btw NTN24 works fine over here with TBS 5925 (using Crazycats streamreaderBDA), although I see occassional pixelation right now, but that might be because of low signal (jumping between 7.8-8.1 dB)

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Location: 50N, 14.6E (near Prague)
C-Band 37.5W-55W: Channel Master 2.4m PF, AVCOMM OMT & Ring + 2x Astrotel 15K, circ.: AVCOMM polarizer + ESX242 (6° off)
C-Band 34.5W: IRTE 1.8m prime focus, ESX241
Scans done with TBS 6903