23.5°E Astra 3B <Europe>

Confirm from here that there is not any signal of both tps (12605 & 12645 Hor )

advantage qwer signal......

Mode 8PSK 3/5 today.

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Original von Kleinraisting
a neighbour from me 30 km byside(180 cm) has a reception of bothe tp.
I think the beam cannot be the middle east. If it would be so Pawelwa must have a very stronger signal; so my idea.
regards

It is probably as you say,and which seems confirmed both KooLy and @Kypros_Pambou(almost) in their area(ME).But then,the same question is still valid,which I put it the first time :from where comes this signal if even in in the north-west of Europe he is weak?
The footprint of the satellite shows us that there are two beams:Europe and Middle East.Beam on Europe is very strong,the EIRP of 51 dBW in the center and 45 dBW at the edge.And for ME is weaker,between 49 dBW to 42 dBW.If we take into account that everyone on this forum uses large antennas, then the question is even more relevant,at least for me.Don't you think so?

neighbour is writing...

at 12605 H the modulation, the fec and the rolloff is changing continuously inside one minute (if hook at update modulation info)
(DVB-S2 / QPSK and 8PSK... 3/5, 4/5, 5/6... 0,20/0,35)

12645 H at the moment no lock, screen from yesterday

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I confirm, bothe signals are very different und still changing;
green bar some time off, red bar near by 7dB and changing in green

When we have a weak and fluctuating signal on a large reception area it means that it comes from outside the coverage area.Even if I don't have evidence and the risk of mistakes, I still think the signal is on the Middle East spot.This time I really want to make mistakes only to be able to determine the source and target of this signal

Added: signal on horizontal polarity at this time.

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Original von satesco

It is probably as you say,and which seems confirmed both KooLy and @Kypros_Pambou(almost) in their area(ME).But then,the same question is still valid,which I put it the first time :from where comes this signal if even in in the north-west of Europe he is weak?
The footprint of the satellite shows us that there are two beams:Europe and Middle East.Beam on Europe is very strong,the EIRP of 51 dBW in the center and 45 dBW at the edge.And for ME is weaker,between 49 dBW to 42 dBW.If we take into account that everyone on this forum uses large antennas, then the question is even more relevant,at least for me.Don't you think so?

There are 3 beams ( Ku Band )of the satellite (Official SES website ) https://www.ses.com/our-coverage/satellites/337
1. Europe Ku-band beam ( I can't receive from here )
2. Europe Ku-band wide beam
3. Middle East Ku-band spot beam
Due to satellite frequncy plan the range from 12500 - 12750 comes from Europe Ku-band beam and that's why i can't receive the specific tps. The bad thing against my receptions is that the last 2 weeks we have very high temperatures in Cyprus ..... ( around 35 deg. celcius - summer comes )

Now:
Changing modulation.

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Original von pawelwa
Now:
Changing modulation.

This reception with 2.7m ??? The EIRP level for Poland is 56 dBW

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Original von Kypros_Pambou

There are 3 beams ( Ku Band )of the satellite (Official SES website ) https://www.ses.com/our-coverage/satellites/337
1. Europe Ku-band beam ( I can't receive from here )
2. Europe Ku-band wide beam
3. Middle East Ku-band spot beam
Due to satellite frequncy plan the range from 12500 - 12750 comes from Europe Ku-band beam and that's why i can't receive the specific tps. The bad thing against my receptions is that the last 2 weeks we have very high temperatures in Cyprus ..... ( around 35 deg. celcius - summer comes )

Looking at the two European beam maps, we find that they cover the same/almost surface of the continent and seems to have the same signal strength.Indeed,the European Ku-band beam is outside your area,and bearing in mind that the two the transponder is weak,then we can explain why you do not get it with your antennas.And,I think,not because of the high temperature in the Mediterranean.If in Europe with large antennas the signal barely reaches 7 dB,how could you get it in your area?
But I'm intrigued by the fact that this signal is too weak to be on the European beam?Actually about that I attracted attention from the beginning.Why all the other frequencies have a strong signal,and these two are so weak if they are on one of the European spots?
I have all sorts of ideas about this, but I do not expose them because I have no palpable arguments.For this reason I confine myself to ask questions and to express my wondering.
Today the signal has grown quite a bit in my area so I locked it on one of the frequencies.

thanks a lot satesco, a good declair